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They Screw Their Best Customers

A friend of ours ( little old lady )
has been taking her Chevy to the dealers
for all maintenance since she bought it there.

As she explained it, they always found something extra
that "needed fixing or replacing"  
and her visits averaged $200 > $300

Last time, she balked at the estimate, and
took her car to an independant garage.
They concluded;
a. there was nothing wrong with her brakes or bearings.
b. many of the items charged had never been replaced.
c. they’d do what really needed doing for about 1/4 the price.

Not only has that CHEVY dealer lost her as a customer,
they’ve lost everyone she tells her story to.

I guess there are bad apples in every barrel.

<rj>

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Re: Watch out for CARMAX

On 16-Jun-2007, "Steve R." <sari…@frontiernet.net> wrote:

> As always, Carfax the vehicle, have an idependent shop go over it with a
> fine tooth comb, NEVER drive off without ALL issues documented and dates
> scheduled. I learned my lesson a long time ago.

> Hope it works out for you…

> "Stephen Horrillo" <advan…@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:46725d23$0$16288$88260bb3@free.teranews.com…
> > The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If
> > you’ve

The Carfax looked fine. One owner. Carfax only shows when it is taken into a
dealerhip. There many holes in a Carfax report. BTW, CARMAX does not let you
just drive it off to a shop, besides it would take more than a day to have
Jaguar dealer look at it. That’s just not going to happen. So CARMAX has all
these points of certification they’re supposed to go through. Most of these
issues I didn’t know were wrong untill I read the manual cover to cover. For
example the hearests are ajustable and the motors were bad. The rear
speakers weren’t working but the sub-woofers were. Yet there’s no fader nob.
You need to go into the setup to get it to fade to real. With all the
speakers in that car it all sounds like everthings fine until you try the
fader.

Their policy is that if you don’t finance or buy the car in full they keep
it up for sale. There’s no such thing as holding it with a deposit. Or
taking it to a Jag dealer to chek it out. That’s why they have all thes e
guarantees in place. There was no way to make demands, then have them fix
it. I would still be paying the finance company for a car that they are
taking their sweet time fixing. Either way this is going to happen.

All the best,

Stephen


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84 camaro wont charge HELP

hi i have a 84 camaro 350 4bbl new batt and alt but it will not charge
it has a good ground and new belt
i think it is a wiring problem could some help me or email me a wiring
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MI5 Persecution: Goldfish and Piranha 29/9/95 (31)

I just thought I’d let you know what I’ve been reading into the
"Crusader" spam. I don’t want to post this to usenet because somebody
might try to tie that in to my posts in some way (someone already has, in
uk.misc).

First of all, I’d like to ask you to believe that my phone line in my
apartment is bugged, and has been for many months. I have moved a couple
of times this year, but "they" have faithfully been on my trail.

Anyway, let’s suppose my phone line is bugged. Now, when I talk to my
internet service provider, it’s over a SLIP (now PPP) connection. So if
you wanted to bug what was said, either you’d listen in over the line and
have to decode the transmission, or you could go to the service provider
(more difficult) and ask them to decode a particular user’s connection.

OK, so now they’re listening to everything I do over my SLIP/PPP
connection. A couple of months ago I was messing around with faking
articles through nntp servers and through anonymous remailers. I chose a
nice inconspicuous newsgroup for my little tests, something no-one would
ever notice. Guess which newsgroup I chose??? Yes, _FISH_!!! or
rec.aquaria to be precise

And guess what articles I tried to post? Goldfish, Koi carp and, you’ll
never guess… PIRANHA!!! The goldfish article and the Koi went through,
but the piranha didn’;t appear.

by now you probably think this is too silly for words. But if you look in
the papers a few eeks ago you will find John Major, Tonny Blair and Paddy
Ashdown sharing a "private joke" about Major’s sunburnt goldfish. We
haven’t had anything about Koi yet (they must be too dull ). Now, sent by
someone who clearly knew what they were doing (they chose an Italian
backbone site for their launch point) we have many thousands of messages
to people all over the globe. All about piranha, and with the punchline
"that gives you something to think about, doesn’t it?"

The way it works is that they’re trying to kill two birds with one stone
again. I don’t knoiw why they should be against these national alliance
people, but my interpretation is that they simultaneously try to
discredit them, and stem the flow of Corley articles.

=================================================================

In article <DFnE55.8tF.0.bl…@torfree.net>,

Mike Corley <bu…@torfree.net> wrote:

>John J Smith (J.J.Sm…@ftel.co.uk) wrote:

>: b) we do know who you are. Or are you someone else we don’t know about?
>: You are currently known as "That bloody persistant net nutter, who’s
>: expanding from uk.misc to the rest of the world".

>I think the point I was trying to make is that I could tell you things
>from my personal life, at home and at work, which would add credibility
>to my story. But if I named people, then (a) they would object violently
>to being included in this shenanigans, and (b) I would be revealing my
>identity which would be bad for my personal life and my work life. Of
>course some people in my personal life, and at work, do know who "mike
>corley" is. But at least we’re observing a studied silence for now.

:P eople can always be called "MR X", to save them being named.
:
:I’m completely perplexed as to what you mean by b). Revealing identity?
:To who? And why would this be bad for any part of your life when you
:already have a less than respectful reputation here?

I’ll just enumerate one or two things that I can still remember. Sometime
around August/Sept 1992 I was living in a house in Oxford, and coming out
of the house was physically attacked by someone – not punched, just grabbed
by the coat, with some verbals thrown in for good measure. That was something
the people at work shouldn’t have known about… but soon after a couple of
people were talking right in front of me about, "yeah, I heard he was
attacked".

Again, one I went for a walk in some woods outside Oxford. The next day,
at work, someone said "you know he went to the forest yesterday".

I don’t want to put details on usenet of what happened because to do so
would be to risk it happening again. If you put ideas in peoples’ heads
then you can find them reflecting back at you, and I don’t want that.
Also I can’t remember that much from three years ago. From november 1992
I started taking "major tranquilizers" and just blotted the whole thing
from my mind.

>This is a feature time and time again, that the security services
>(presumed) get at you by manipulating other people around you to get at
>you. If you have their contacts, manpower, resources and technology then
>you can do that sort of thing.

:But why? Are you a threat?

They pretend they "have" to get at me. After the first few weeks they had
to find a reason to spy and abuse. You can’t abuse someone unless they’re
in the wrong in some way. What I did "wrong" was to be ill. So it became
"nutter" and "monster" and "he’s going to attack us" coupled with
"ha ha ha, he can’t do anything to defend himself, it was so funny". That
obvious contradiction within their propaganda is something they
blithely ignore.

:So, the Security Services never *actually* appear, and you assume that
:they get someone else to do your dirty work. This is a bit of a big
:logical step, here: That person doesn’t like me, or is causing me trouble,
:it’s not because they’ve got problems themselves, it must be the "Security
:Services". Yes. Because people are infallible. Or is there more?

A single source is indicated because of the range of harassment.
BBC + Capital + manipulated_public_at_large + set_up_situations,
what does that add up to? Add in the technology to carry out the
covert spying and the manpower and knowhow to follow you around for
five years without being spotted. It smells very much of the security
services, because there is no other organization (to my knowledge)
which does the things I’ve seen these people do.

Remember, they have deliberately chosen the softest of soft targets
to victimize. They purposely chose a mentally ill person who they thought
would be likely to kill himself anyway, so that they could get away with
murder.

And in all likelihood it will have started as a personal vendetta by someone.
Who could that be? I don’t know, but I can give you some clues.

The first possibility (deep breath) is that someone from my college set me
up. Six years ago I graduated from university in the UK, during the last
year there I was steadily getting more and more ill. I know that I was
talking in my sleep; although I don’t know what I was saying, it got
me a reputation, and if someone from my college talked afterwards to
the "wrong" people then that could be the reason for all that has followed.

I think that’s the strongest contender for source. Directly beneath my
room lived another bloke who frequently had his friends round late at
night, after the time that I went to sleep. So they could have heard what
I was saying in my sleep, and that could have got me the reputation for
"talking to myself".

What I don’t know is why that should have rebounded a year after I left.
You’d think it would have happened sooner; it’s a bit odd to wait for a
year and then start abuse. That leads me to question what in particular
happened around May/June 1990 for them to start then.

>What I don’t know is how it looks from the other side, from the side of
>the people who are being manipulated to get at me. On a couple of
>occasions I have challenged people to tell the truth of the matter, but
>they have alwats ducked the challenge.

:Have you ever considered the possibility, that you have made a mistake, and
:the people don’t know what you are talking about?

Yes. I am currently considering the possibility that some people around me
know only what is being posted on Usenet, and have not been "contacted"
by "them". But I _know_ that others have been contacted.

:What words? Are they in common use? Could they be a catchphrase of a
:popular comedian?: "Nice to see you, to see you nice"?

In England the all-time No. 1 is "nutter". Easter this year, returning home
from Clapham police station to report five years of harassment ("we’re not
saying it’s happening and we’re not saying it isn’t happening"), another
"not happening" incident of harassment when a cowardly little slut did her
country proud by yelling "nutter, nutter, nutter" in the face of the
hated enemy.

What can you do about that? You can’t yell abuse back in their face, because
they know they’re supported by their peers, by the media, by the murderers in
the security forces. You can’t put them down when the fascist establishment
is on their side. You can’t hit them, because they would deny their abuse,
they would deny knowing anything, and bring charges against the "nutter"
who attacked them "at random".

>You know, you’re
>passing saomeone, they’re hardly going to construct an argument for your
>benefit, so they work a word of abuse into the conversation which they
>can giggle at.

:Abuse such as what? We’re all adults here, we can take it. Is this abuse
:aimed at you? How can you tell it is?

I think I’ve said already what the words are. Thing is, at any given time
the language is consistent. In January everyone’s calling you X, then a
few weeks later people stop calling you X and start calling you Y.

You can tell it’s aimed at me, because when people repeatedly say the same
words are you walk past, then laugh, you would have to be hard of
understanding not to recognize it.

>Or they repeat something that’s been said somewhere else… the PE thing
>being a case in point. PE says it, then other people pick up the refrain.

:Remind me who PE is again.

PE = "Private Eye"

- — -

>: >To give you an example, which I mentioned in another posting. In around
>: >October 1992, Private Eye ran a cover with the heading "Major’s support
>: >lowest ever", with John calling to Norma on the cover "come back, Norma".
>: >Only one obvious interpretation to that, isn’;;t there? I certainly
>: >thought so when I saw that cover. Wrongo!! Down the pub with people from work
>: >Simon says to phil, "don’;t you think it’s wrong then?" phil says, "well
>: >private eye are usuallyright"…"hislop strikes again..

>: Erm. Mike? Heeeelllllooo? What are you on about. What is the other
>: interpretation then? Norma having an affair? Seems a bit wrong, with the
>: heading "Majors support Lowest ever"…

>No, this one isn’t obvious , it really does need to be explained. I
>certainly didn’t understand it when I first saw it. You see, the kernel
>of vitriol is in the words "come back". At the time, the themes of
>abuse were centred around interpretations of those two words (stretch your
>mind a little bit, I don’t have to spell it out for you, surely).

:You did in your mail item.
:
:You seem to be scouting about something called a "Double Entendre". The
:inference being "Come" = Ejaculation, "Back" = Anus (not the first part
:o f the body I would have went for, I would have foolishly gone for "Back",
:silly old me).
:
:You see to have picked a sodomy double entendre out of a Private Eye
:headline. They are everywhere. The English language has much double
:meaning in it, and if you put your mind to it, you could pull a double
:entendre out of a randomly chosen page of the bible. So what?

>The point is that when Simon pointed it out to Phil, he did recognise
>what it meant after a moment’s thought… and so did I… and so did the
>people who repeated it several times later… so however murky it may
>seem to you, that is the meaning they intended it to have…

I still don’t really know if the meaning was intended when that headline was
written, or if it was simply "found" after the fact. The reason I think it
might be the former is that I got quite a lot of abuse along the lines of
"sound-alike" or "double-entendre" at work, in particularly from Steve.
So "double" inevitably came to mean split-personality, "two people in one";
"back" inevitably came to mean "backside", "come" inevitably meant you-know-
what, "split" (well, we’d better split now) again you can guess, "bent" (of
a similar bent), the list goes on forever. These aren’t "nice" double-
entendres intended for comedy, they’re nasty words to humiliate and cause
pain. If I could turn the clock back three years then I would sue my
former employers for harassment and I would almost certainly win. I had to
take pills after a year of Oxford, so they wouldn’t be able to lie their
way out of it. Actually, I could still take them to court – the main
obstacle being that three years after the fact is a bit late and much
of what happened, the details that would be necessary for a case to go
to court, has just been obliterated by time.

:        Smid

==============================================
From: fla…@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,alt.conspiracy,uk.media,uk.legal
Subject: Re: Mike Corley – a (helpful) suggestion
Date: Mon Oct  2 05:43:42 1995

In article <812551172…@objmedia.demon.co.uk>, Snail <sn…@objmedia.demon.co.uk> says:

>Indeed, I feel that my Usenet access is censored simply because I don’t want
>to download groups he is partaking in, because of his behaviour.

>I wasn’t that bothered, but I am starting to get seriously pissed off
>with him. Which takes a lot.

Hi Snail

This person Corley seems quite interesting for three reasons. I put the
following at the end of a post in another thread just to see if he was
reading any other threads in uk.media.

It seems he is probably not.

———————————————————————–
Heres an interesting little story from back in the early days of CCD
technology. There was this miniature camera which was designed to fit
behind the infrared receiver lens of the remote control system (just
beside the IR sensor itself) the camera clocked out the data in 256 lines
 of 256 pixels from a Fairchild chip and fed it out, a line at a time,
into the VBI within the TV set itself. The signal could be picked up
remotely from a standard license detector van from where it was stripped
out of the surrounding RF signal and relayed back to the TV station where
it was displayed as a slowscan monochrome image in a corner of the news
readers monitor.

31

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MI5 Persecution: Grievous Bodily Harm 2/10/95 (1545)

From: jeibi…@revolver.demon.co.uk (James Eibisch)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,uk.media,rec.arts.tv.uk.misc
Subject: Re: Auntie gets it in the emails
Reply-To: jeibi…@revolver.demon.co.uk
Date: Mon Oct  2 19:44:19 1995

lig0…@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote:
>However, I’m pleased to say that, in the past couple of days, Mike Corley has
>stopped doing it and he appears (I say this cautiously) to be acting more
>reasonably. True, his postings are still based on paranoid delusions.
>However, so long as he doesn’t go back to his old practices of multiple,
>identical, unreadable postings, I’m sure that most people on this newsgroup
>are willing to put up with him.

Time to come out of the woodwork of this thread (or variations
thereof)…

I find it annoying that discussion of Mike’s situation is spread over
multiple threads – it makes it hard to follow, and especially to follow
up. If it could be consolidated into one thread on relevant newsgroups
(I’m reading this on uk.media btw).

I’m a little surprised with the volume of abuse Mike has received, but
believe strongly in freedom of speech if such a thing were to exist,
which clearly includes abuse as much as anything.

One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple
prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted
mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by
now-influential ex-students of his university.

Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security
service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of
the most powerful pieces of TV drama I’ve seen in many years,
fascinating and quite believable, even.

The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-) , that the
security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time
to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror
if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it

We still don’t have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here
I think would be about his time at university – the people who took
against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his
political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy
years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the
very early stages.

I don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories generally, but I know there is
far more that goes on in the universities, old boy’s clubs, civil and
secret services and Parliament than is ever made public.

Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant
newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new
information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the ‘Mike
Corley is a nutter’ posts unless they are relevant.

Give us more detail. Who knows? It may be true, stranger things have
happened.

                   _  
James Eibisch    (‘v’)     N : E : T : A : D : E : L : I : C : A
Reading, U.K.    (,_,)     http://metro.turnpike.net/J/jeibisch/
                =======

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Tue, 03 Oct 1995 04:01:34           uk.misc                 Thread    3 of   14
Lines 58              Re: Auntie gets it in the emails      Respno  16 of  16
J.J.Sm…@ftel.co.uk      John J Smith at Fujitsu Telecommunications Europe Ltd

In article <812677261.12…@revolver.demon.co.uk>,

James Eibisch <jeibi…@revolver.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>lig0…@queens-belfast.ac.uk (TOM OATES) wrote:
>One thing which has been missing from this discussion is this simple
>prognosis: that maybe Mike is right and that, despite his admitted
>mental condition, there really is a campaign against him organised by
>now-influential ex-students of his university.

We’re trying to find this out on uk.misc. He’s posted some *new* *huge*
replies (which I’d have to give up my day job to reply to), detailing
some things like:

        a) Mike Corley is *not* his real name
         b) Exactly what the "abuse" is (it seems be such things, as taking
        completely unrelated newspaper articles, striving to make them a
        disgusting insult, then redirecting against himself).
        c) How he came to the conclusion.

I think he’s doing rather better nowadays..

>Does anyone remember the TV series GBH, a fictional account of security
>service and governmental power games? Fictional, certainly, but one of
>the most powerful pieces of TV drama I’ve seen in many years,
>fascinating and quite believable, even.

This would be a point, apart from the fact that this was directed against
someone of political importance. I don’t believe Mike is…

>The fact is, as Mike has pointed out (oh, so many times :-) , that the
>security services _do_ have the influence, contacts, resources, and time
>to conduct such a campaign of surveillance and even psychological terror
>if they so chose. If they have this power, then they will surely use it
>at some point against some people.

It appears he has formed the Security Service conclusion, because they
are the only ones capable of doing it. A "searching for an enemy capable
of it".

>We still don’t have all the facts from Mike, and the most pertinent here
>I think would be about his time at university – the people who took
>against him, the ringleaders. We need to know far more about Mike: his
>political and social affiliations, put in context with his univeristy
>years, the enemies he made, the reasons people ganged up on him at the
>very early stages.

I’m beginning to think that we never will get all the facts from Mike. We
may, however, get enough…

>Mike, I leave it to you to construct a _single_ thread in a relevant
>newsgroup about this topic and keep to this thread to give us new
>information and answer questions about your situation. Ignore the ‘Mike
>Corley is a nutter’ posts unless they are relevant.

Uk.misc, me boy…

        Smid                                                                                        

==========================================================

From: fla…@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr|ger)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.c onspiracy
Subject: Re: What it’s like to be watched by the security services
Date: Tue Oct  3 15:41:54 1995

In article <44rrrh$…@news.ox.ac.uk>, idan…@jesus.ox.ac.uk (Illtud Daniel) says:

>And what do you mean when you state that the symptoms are too
>’textbook’? Are the textbooks wrong?

I think what is meant by ‘textbook’ is that some of the symptoms
of ‘illness’ displayed in the posts seem to have been lifted from
textbooks describing mental instability and personality disorders.

I must admit I haven’t seen Mike’s postings before has he only just
started posting again?

Peter Kruger
————————————————————
http://www.gold.net/flames/
fla…@flames.cityscape.co.uk

1545

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MI5 Persecution: Dihydrocodeine 26/11/95 (6087)

From: micha…@easynet.co.uk (micha…@easynet.co.uk)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.media,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,alt.radio.uk
Subject: Re: Britain’s Shame (repost)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:19:13 GMT
Organization: ————
Lines: 89
Message-ID: <817374781.20251@michaelm.easynet.co.uk>
References: <DIM34L.755.0.bloor@torfree.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk
X-NNTP-Posting-Host: michaelm.easynet.co.uk
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82

bu…@torfree.net (Mike Corblymee) wrote:

| In June 1990 a horrifying campaign of harassment was initiated in London by
| what are believed to be elements of the security services. The harassment has
| continued for over five years, starting from the broadcast and print media,
| and encompassing abuse through set-up situations and by people in public
| places. It has been brought to the attention of the police and they are aware
| what is happening, but are not taking any action to prevent it.

<whopping great snip of 884 lines>

corley, you puzzle me!

i’ve narrowed your possible motives down to one or more of the following:

1) you work on behalf of the british government with a hidden agenda of
furthering the largely right wing (most to hide) censorship brigade’s
cause,  "a drug-crazed psycho posting dangerous nonsense – how very very
sad – but in the public interest,we must act." draft internet (censorship)
bills rolling off hm govt’s banders at this very moment, I don’t doubt it!

2) you work for the daily mail which has started to feel the "internet
pinch" as it suddenly clicks in the chronically adled minds of yet more and
more of their readers – that shudder-inducing realisation that the entire
editorial staff at the mail are scaremongering, imbecilic, blood-leeching ,
totalitarian twats –  can any else sense a coordinated campaign on its way
??- "Mail urges (their) government to act – internet safety endangered by
uncontrolled surfing lunatics – boys hands blown off by internet maniacs –
net porn responsible for 392323rd rape " .net porn responsible for
392324th rape " .net porn responsible for 392325th rape " .net porn
responsible for 392326th rape " .net porn responsible for 392327th rape "
net porn responsible for 392328th rape " .net porn responsible for
392329th rape " <yawn> .net porn responsible for 392330th rape " .net porn
responsible for 392331st rape " .net porn responsible for 392332nd rape "
net porn responsible for 392333rd rape " <yawn> .net porn responsible for
392334th rape " .net porn responsible for 392335th rape " .net porn
responsible for 392336th rape " .net porn responsible for 392337th rape "
net porn responsible for 392338th rape " etcetera, straight from the old
nag’s mouth..

lee-potter (and english), take particular note.. (how ever you two common
********* managed to avoid encarceration for what was, quite
evidently,wilful contempt of court in the regina v taylforth & knights
case, is frankly beyond me.. those dreaded and now all too familiar words
"endemic corruption" were muttered by at least one Q.C.

>3) you (at least) believe there’s (some) substance to your claim(s) and you
>have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the
>heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that’s assuming you’re even
>capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.)

4) you (as an email address) are serving as some bizarre "educational"
programme orchestrated by the psychiatric industry – ever keen to justify
enforced electrical lobotomies, electroshock and dwugs .All poised for the
echo? – "corley frigging well needs lobotomising"

5) you’re just clinically insane with absolutely no comprehension or
insight into the consequences you will possibly face as a result of
repeatedly posting what, certainly on the face of it, looks like complete
and utter bullshit.

6) you’re some weirdo prankster(s) – probably a group of student
psychiatrists having a cheap crack whilst high as kites on pilfered
dihydrocodeine.

7) You are infact working for the ss yourself, gauging public awareness of
the extent and methods of bugging – infinity transmitters, microwave
surveillance devices, satellite tracking equipment, ‘chipping’ of black
crims, say no more.

8) You’re fuelling the central usenet administration committee, who, it is
believed, are keen to see the introduction of a wide-reaching framework of
self-created powers relating to posting cancellation. (see the ‘son of
RFC1036′)

my bet’s on (5) – but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks
instead. The cia’s financing of "professor" cameron’s brain-washing
experiments in montreal.. would be a good starting point … or perhaps
"professor" watts and his widely admired masterful double eye-jabbing trick
– a couple of wallops with an icepick. such a waste of perfectly edible
four year old hispanics !!!!.. Perhaps the old marylebone rd posse could
fill us in with a few more facts on this one…?? You are all on the .net
now ?????  A very warm welcome :-) … christmas rapidly approaching..

>business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!!

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Actually, upon thinking about Mike’s story it reminds me of someone I
heard about who suffered from a persecution copmlex. He was an immigrant
from some Eastern Bloc country who believed that 30 years after he
emigrated the KGB were still after him. He would blame them if he
had difficulty unlocking his car for instance (he reckoned they were
putting something into the locks!).

Something is very wrong, probably in Mike’s head but what the hell,
loonies make life more fun!

Angus Gulliver

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Subject: Castrate the depraved MI5 buggers now
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Organization: Toronto Free-Net

>Something is very wrong, probably in Mike’s head but what the hell,
>loonies make life more fun!

Something is very wrong when the security services abandon their usual
target of politicians and the well-known, to pursue the hitherto unknown
nonentities such as myself.

>corley, you puzzle me!

Why? Because of my pathological truthfulness?

>3) you (at least) believe there’s (some) substance to your claim(s) and you
>have a genuine axe to grind. If so, bloody well go for it, but scrape the
>heavy layer of steaming dung off the top (that’s assuming you’re even
>capable of distinguishing fantasy from reality.)

Bloody well go for it I will.

I think the "standard spiel" is quite studded with facts actually.
There’s plenty of "meat" there if the appropriate people can be motivated
to get their act together and pursue the case.

>my bet’s on (5) – but just fuck off corley- irritate the lard-arsed canucks
>instead. The cia’s financing of "professor" cameron’s brain-washing

the lard-arsed canucks (?) are irritating me, but you don’t want to hear
about that

>business booming?? Do we all get a look in at flotation ??!!

6087

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Watch out for CARMAX

The following is from a complaint I just register with the BBB. If you’ve
had similar problems please contact me…
I purchased a Jaguar XKR from CARMAX’s Davie Store on 5/19/07. At which time
I noticed several problems with the car that needed to be fixed. I reported
the issues and left the car with them for repair. When I picked up the car I
noticed that most of my issues were not addressed. While waiting for parts
to arrive for the second round of repairs, I took the car home for a few
days. I found numerous other repair issues. I found 12 warrantee issues.
When I brought the car back I gave the Service Manager, Sammy Warnamally a
printed list, and copies of CARMAX’s certification form showing why these
items were covered. I brought my car in on 6/1/07. When I got my car back 14
DAYS later discovered 1) stereo wasn’t fixed, 2) second set of keys and
valet key were not in yet, 3) convertible cover was not ordered, 4) trim
around the door handle wasn’t addressed 5) visor wasn’t replaced "because
Jaguar sent them the wrong part." 6) now the rear view mirror is loose as if
the car suffered a heavy impact or was driven a long distance down a dirt
road. Caked on white mud is on the inside door panels. For 2 weeks I have
been strung along by the service manager. When I asked to pick up my car
until the parts arrived, I was repeatedly told the seats were taken apart
and awaiting a headrest motor from Jaguar so I could not pick it up. Jaguar
Parts Department told me their delivery takes a week at most and parts can
be overnighted for a nominal cost of $6 per item. I was lied to that my car
was ready except for the headrest motors. I was also lied to about the extra
set of keys being there. Despite involvement of Operations Manager Adam
Warner and General Manager Theresa, my vehicle is still not fixed. I have
lost many hours work, suffered grief, and have had to pay $606 payment for a
car I was only able to drive a few days. I am releasing this to the Media,
posting my story on Internet consumer protection websites, forums and
newsgroups to get together a class action lawsuit. I am registering a
complaint with the Attorney General’s Office and State Attorney’s Office, as
I suspect foul play.
As it is impossible to trust CARMAX, I want all further repairs to be done
at Alpine Jaguar. I want Jaguar to inspect the car for accident/abuse
damage. Compensation for my monthly payment to Capital One for $606. My lost
time and wages estimated at 6 hours at $150 an hour. Grief and punitive
damages will be addressed in another arena.

Stephen Horrillo advancitREMOVET…@comcast.net


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Autoworkers ask who will share the pain

Autoworkers ask who will share the pain
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070615/AUTO02/706…

Parnell E. Johnson Jr. spent 35 years at Ford Motor Co., still too
young, he says, to retire at 54.

But like thousands of other Ford lifers, he’s nonetheless retired. Which
doesn’t mean Ford’s intent to seek a 30 percent cut in its "all-in"
$71-an-hour labor costs during this summer’s national contract talks
still doesn’t infuriate him.

"Isn’t it a shame Ford has to cut labor cost 30 percent (the little
guys), but no mention about the top guy perks, stock options, bonuses,
what else do they want," he wrote in the first of two e-mails responding
to my Wednesday column on Ford’s plans. "I had to retire after 35 years
and now worry if my so-called pension and health care will last.

"These top guys would never have to worry about that. They could drive
Ford’s company into the ground and still be set for life, while the
people that made the product for years get the royal shaft. You want
cuts? Then upper management must step to the plate, also."

United Auto Workers President Ron Gettelfinger couldn’t have said it
better himself. As Detroit’s automakers and the UAW prepare for
watershed negotiations this summer, the most unpredictable element will
be how people who think like Johnson — and there are lots of them —
react to whatever the talks produce.

There will be no agreements at General Motors Corp., Ford or Chrysler
without the approval of hourly folks. To some, that’s no way to run a
company. To others, it’s the way it should be. To all of them, it is
what it is.

Johnson and others who e-mail regularly or post their outrage on message
boards read the press, surf the Internet, watch local news and muster a
familiar refrain: They know Ford CEO Alan Mulally’s "all-in" pay package
is somewhere north of $28 million, a big chunk paid in his first months.

They’ve seen the stories of Ford’s Americas boss, Mark Fields, flying
the corporate jet home to Florida on weekends. Not anymore, but that he
did lingers.

Perceptions beget ‘reality’

They can’t understand how GM can blow billions on apparently failed
foreign adventures, or field cruddy cars with names like Aztek, then
plead poverty. They don’t trust that bankrupt Delphi Corp. should, in
fact, be in federal bankruptcy court.

Or that Detroit’s automakers really do need labor-cost parity with
foreign rivals like Toyota operating in the United States, however
clearly they see — and they do — the decline of Detroit and the rise
of the Asians here.

Quibble all you want about reality; debate the hard business facts;
argue the global auto game of growth and investment. These perceptions
are reality to thousands of Detroit’s hourly workers and their retiree
chorus.

You haven’t heard it lately, but it won’t be long — I’m thinking weeks
— before the words "shared sacrifice" start bubbling up again. You want
more from the union? Show the union you’ll share the pain by deferring
bonuses or lengthening vesting schedules on options and restricted stock.

Like it or not, the Detroit auto industry captained today by Mulally,
GM’s Rick Wagoner and Chrysler’s Tom LaSorda is a shared enterprise.
Management has the responsibility to deliver the results, but the
results it delivers are materially impacted by its relationship with
hourly workers.

Make like Marie Antoinette and you’re toast. Ignoring the symbolism of
your actions imperils your credibility. And the more you want, the
bigger toast you’ll be because however much the union leadership may
"get" the dire challenges facing the companies — and I think
Gettelfinger’s brass does "get it" — if they can’t sell the troops on
it, it ain’t gonna happen.

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OT – 1957 Plymouth Belvedere To Be UnEarthed

A story about this 1957 Plymouth Belvedere buried in Tulsa, Oklahoma, was
posted several months ago, but today (Friday June 15th 2007) is the day the
car will be lifted up from 3 feet below ground. The Belvedere was buried in
a cement vault in 1957, to be taken out in 50 years.

Here’s the official page for the event:
http://www.buriedcar.com/

The last article I read said they actually removed the top of the vault a
couple of days ago, to check things out (such as the metal supports under
the car, used to lift it out) before they try to remove it. They found 3-4
feet of water, which wasn’t a good sign, but they say back in 1957 the car
was protected with 3 layers of rust/water protectant, so it may just have
held together. The car will be removed from the vault at 12pm, and will be
put on display at 6:30pm. There are links on the official page to view
everything live.

Just wanted to let everyone know, incase it seems of interest to them. I
personally, can’t wait to see what it will look like after 50 years, and
what all is in the car’s glove box and trunk.

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